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Absolute Beast
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2018-05-22 #23207
"Which voc is stronger" " What should i have as a main voc " these 2 questions shouldnt be asked in a balanced server.
ofcourse as you all know , when a voc is weak compared to others that force players to ignore it then there is the problem , can be fixed by adjusting that voc as happened with paladin , but not that far? , adjusting a vocation doesnt mean to increase its damage ,its tankiness in same time so that it has big advantage compared to others , as we all knew paladins are meant to be backline shooters and they cant get involved in front line because they're more squishy than a knight for example , unfortunatly we have the opposite here , we did have paladins damage increased but they can go for frontline aswell ?
Why should i keep on playing my ed and paladins has better survive-ability with E rings ?
and why should i keep on playing my sorcerer if paladins have more damage per second ?
and why should i play a knight since i can go as a frontline beside having better dmg ?
how is that even fair , thats not good for game balance there aint anyfun stuff in playing a vocation that is over powered compared to others , please balance is the key increasing the damage only would be really enough , but now pallies have E rings - their healing is very very decent - they have merger runes its almost a perfect vocation with everything buffed to the max.
and to be honest its not at pvp only , the ultimate crossbow what is this joke about this thing ? hits all monsters in screen like seriously with that hell amount of dmg that is broken isnt it ? you now making a 300 rebirthed pally hunting in moronia which is 850 rebirths area faster than a 1k rebirthed druid , that is huge unbalance in the pve system. my opinion is : decrease the paladin defences, having very strong damage is enough , and for pve limit the targets which crossbow hits , lets say 3 targets at a time, that was my opinion personally i think this is the major problem.
 
Quack Quack
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2018-05-22 #23208
It's funny that everytime you login with Absolute Beast, you've asked "are there any changes?". While mentioning some of the changes/providing external links, you didnt bother to read them.

Paladin has indeed been buffed since the old 9.83 gameplay. But honestly, they haven't been "pushed" to the max, as you called it. As most Paladin always mention, their damage might be high but the protection is a lot lower than you think. Sorcerers damage is actually higher (for example).

If players would keep attacking INSTEAD of writing "omg rp tank?!!" after the freeze rune effect expires, we wouldnt be able to recover our mana for the next freeze - and/or we'd die trying.
But since people tend to start writing instead of keep fighting, it's quite easy to recover (atleast in some of my scenarios).

Also, Druids damage is increased by 30% if they hit the target with immune. Since they follow us to stacked areas, it's quite obvious they cant use it as much, same with paralyze rune. It doesnt necessarily make us OP, - it's just tactical game-play. - With that being said, we still die most of the time.
 
Old Powerzc
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2018-05-22 #23209
dying most of time from outnumbered team? u are a joke

and also immune increases damage only 15%
 
Quack Quack
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2018-05-23 #23210
Actually Old, you're the joke. Let's look at some examples.

First we got the 30% increase which you claim is 15%.



Since your math is off, let me tell you how much the damage increase with all the different buffs.
Immune = 30% increase.
Cap = 15% increase.
Immune+Cap = 49.5% increase - (Personally think it should be 45% but w/e).

Next of, we got the video that you’ve already seen. Link 1



Since you missed it, I guess it's worth to mention what's going on.
[Angelous] He disconnected so it’s nothing abusive here unless you think Paladins shouldnt be able to kill a person that’s not active.
[Doctor Powerz] Using a MR that heals 1-2% HP when he’s being focused and spamming spells. I believe he got freezed around 50-60%. It’s obvious that he dies. (unless someone else heal him)
[Exitium] To busy not seeing the logic that Angelous didnt heal. During his ”amazement” he forgot to heal Doctor Powerz or freeze Vivanzo/Riesen which resulted in Doctor Powerz bad game-play to die.
[Old Powerz] Writing too and didnt heal his friend.

Next Video. Is a bit different. It’s Paladins survival. Link 2



Riesen being pushed into PZ + mwall at his location = good gameplay.
[Angelous] Writing ”hato SD” which people has translated to be ”give me SD”. You can clearly see him using Exori Mort Strike instead, which during my tests deal even less than Mega Frigo.
{doctor Powerz] Freezed right before I got freezed, so during the freeze duration, he only attacked with Sword. When he finally use spells, Im already able to heal. He eventually leave.
[exitium] First freeze, got nothing to say except shame that your team didnt have the tools/gameplay to finish me off. Probably better to wait with the freeze next time. Next freeze tho, you didnt use immune.

If you think a Paladin rebirth ~2000 should die against 3 playes with a Druid, not using his full potential, not even Sds and a Knight only using Sword which has been nerfed countless of time.. then yes, Paladins survival is OP.

Another thing worth to mention is that Doctor Powerz and Angelous got back (unfortunately I have no footage of it). But as soon as the freeze was timed better and Angelous had Sds. I died. I believe I died 5-6 times during that war. And only 1 death included slow rune. Lots of more things could be mentioned, but I’m going to stop to avoid wall of text.
 
Mr Action
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2018-05-23 #23211
Yeah absolute you're right.
Paladin has the most damage in server
Paladin has the most survival chance in server
Paladin has multi-attacks
Paladin has utito tempo san
Paladin has e-ring

Nerf paladins.

Druid has weak damage
Druid's immune needs buff to 5s
Add mana per souls to druids
Add unfreeze to druids only
Nova sio should give 30% mana/health and shouldn't cost mana

Buff Druids
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w51Qw-uPo1I&feature=youtu.be

Video of paladin's great survival ^
 
Old Powerz
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2018-05-23 #23212
these videos isnt the wanted one, this what u guys want but what i wanted that incave itself,,, anyways ill start incase we made war anymore to make videos myself but i doubt so
 
Rebellion
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2018-05-23 #23213
The best parts in these videos are the reactions.
Next video shows how eds dies for 2 people (It will be difficult to find).
 
Old Powerzc
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2018-05-23 #23214
trust me rebellion i downloaded bandicam specially for not asking a trader of ideas for his videos and he act like oh ok we will upload and then he put what fit his own vocation anyways we still have alot of time to make alot of wars

about rp shouldnt die against 3 druids who doesnt use full potential and block them,,, druid doesnt need his opponent to be full potential to die but words wont describe so lets wait for it
 
Scrub
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2018-05-23 #23215
Ya men nerf all plox
 
Quack Quack
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2018-05-24 #23216
As I already told you in discord. The files got corrupted/damaged while trying to render/upload them.
With that being said.. what exactly is wrong with these clips? - In BOTH videos you can clearly see you complaining (Exitium). - It makes me wonder how much of your reports that's actually legitimately reported.

Also the "15% increase" you actually edited in, when in reality it's 30% increase.. it still cracks me up.

Since you got bandicam. Why dont you re-create the scenario Vivanzo was in and show how Old Powerz dies in 1 freeze ?-and if he survives, move doctor away and try with a 2nd freeze.

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