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@Old Powerzc

You shouldn't give out random players your account. That's why I said it would be better to upload a video.

And I honestly don't see the issue here. If you can kill Szumi Knight, why make a post that you can't?
The difference I see (while trying to understand your post) Is that Szumi Knight didn't die during your combo. Would it be more balanced if he died within that Combo?

@Tera Druid

It's true that he took around 50% with Extreme Ice Runes. However, after a recent test, I once tried it again by using all the Vocations between rebirth 1000-1300. The result was quite fascinating. And had to test it several times.

To great thing about Extreme Runes is that you can get a lot of critical. I tried the test on each vocation 10 times and they all hit around the same amount of damage. Was perhaps 1-5 % different on my HP but that had to do with criticals.

This is the damage each vocation dealt on me. (approximately)
56% Knight
58% Druid
55% Sorcerer
57% Paladin

Have in mind that they sometimes dealt more and sometimes less. And I only count when they got critical damage. So this is like the highest damage dealt from each class. (approximately ofc).

Also I have to admit that I don't fully understand how the critical works. But let's say that each critical is based on a %. (we can use 8 as the % in this example). So, if you use the damage they got on me, they got 6-7 criticals on me while using 5 Extreme Runes, along with the general damage from the runes. So if a player would've used it on a Knight 1300, it would still just deal 8% damage each critical. So he'd most likely have around the same amount of HP I had. However, the general damage deal more on the lower rebirth, quite obvious why, so it's not that odd it might sometimes deal a little more on a lower rebirth.

Also, I wrote an "approximately-damage" on each vocation above. (above ~50% each test) Which means that if Old Powerzc would've done a better combination with the rules and spells.. Szumi Knight would've been dead within a freeze.

I'm not saying that this is balanced and I understand the purpose of this thread. But unfortunately players only see power in the other vocation and deny the fact that their class might also be an issue.

thats why i want to give u my character to test extreme rune on it you are knight u can heal your full hp by 1 donate uh but we cant heal it by 1 ultimate manarune there is HUGE different bro and also i wasn;t angry that i couldnt kill szumi by combo ik i can but when my attack is so near to pieroozek it makes me feel ill of this server i wasted like 3 years you know? just to get this rebirth even if someone did it to me not me in person but still it been 3 years and atl ast there is no different.
i agree server is ok now but make change vocation ill change my vocation to knight easy, i just someone of these ppls who think that HIGH rebirth has no problems even more than low rebirth i would like to give my character but like you said i cant trust all ppls SO why not admin invite like 2-3 players
Perfection, me and you in test server just to see HUGE difference and stupidity of this server pvp system.

dont focus on szumi because he isn't issue focus on the perfection please all your thread just on ek i didn't even try hard to attack it was just trying immune with sd and he didn't die "its all"
but perfection used 1 extreme rune on me and immune + sd i lost 100% of my mana and 76% of my hp this is BULLSHIT
and the 8% you talking about it seems something doesn't matter as long as you didn't use HIGh rebirth druid you can't feel the shit i feel while when i fight against low rebs.
really they abuse me not me who abuse them

I understand your frustration. And I'm not trying to provoce you or even call you bad.

It's going to be a long text if I explain everything, so I'm not going to.
However, I can't say I've played as long as you with my Knight Riesen, but as you may know, players complained a lot about Knights and I managed to stay "high-pride".

The sad truth is that I'd still enjoy my Knight, but for some weird reasons I always have a bumpy connection. I cannot level without losing an connection, I cannot pvp without losing an connection.
That's why I'm rarely online. I only login to check the Help channel.
It's rather sad actually. I got a lot of tricks but cannot use them ;p And I'd gladly share them but unfortunately it's a lot of text and people doesn't bother to read.

I'm not going to say that you're OP, but you could be a huge pain to the whole server. Surely it may cost a bit. But players seem to use the wrong "rotation" when they atk a player.


Surely the extreme runes are quite annoying, but since you don't regulary play as a Knight, you probably don't see their weakness.
And the 8% damage, I meant that towards everyone, that's basically our main attack as a knight. And it wouldn't be that surprising if a Knight dropped you the the same amount of mana as they did on my HP.

they doesn't effect my mana with 8% its full mana 100% because exetreme rune attack on basic shield hp/mp if u use utamo it attack mana and it's legendary takes alot of my mana 1 rune removes over 50 of my mana sometimes its random but usual make huge damage and still i can't heal all of it by using mana per soul and ultimate mana staff sees that if old powerz said it's bad so it's fine why? because they think i wanna everything die by 1 hit, while they completely wrong like 2 updates ago extreme rune was good but not useless and not OP they tried to fix it just like other spells they ruined it

Well, the critical effects both HP and Mana, but there's no way 1 rune can take down 50%.

I'll actually do a test later during the day and we'll see if it's right or wrong.

haha ok lets see

btw all vocations are balanced except 2 things that ruin them runes/and that combo sd + mega

lets begin with runes any 2 vocations 1k reb with using runes and combo sd + mega can kill anybody
you can spam it/alot of critcs. a guy 1200-1300 reb can get my mana 30% in 1 freeze using those two.

now mega + sd first its low exhaust which allows you to keep attacking it like normal mega but with higher damage and mana per soul is not good anymore if i used 2 mps they can do it in 1 rune or 2.

admin should try his acc pvping and you'll how those 2 are op and mps are nothing anymore.

not all players would understand this because they aren't high enough to feel disappoint about this server, and also sd damage doesn't depend on level just like extreme rune and they are main attack for all vocations.

and also exori mort strike spell like it doesn't exist useless has no power at all