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Are we abusers or neutrals?

 
Riesen
Seniour Tutor
Posts: 2176
2014-02-12 #8080
I made this thread to avoid any further off topics on Abezethibous event-thread.

For the players that dont understand what's been going on, I will make a fast explaination.

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Many players think we helpers do not act neutral to all the players, so we gets lots of grudges against us. They expect us to have super powers and therefor be better helpers.
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The guild war issue.

During the guild war, there's an guild that's been abusing during the event. Not everyone abuse in the guild but they do not report it either so according to me, they're abusers too.
You get 1000 if you win the event so I think it's really bad to abuse.
And during the last event, another guild started to abuse too. Since that guild managed to win (even if I jailed players) they consider me as an abuser and not neutral. Even though I jailed several players.
(it was just a matter of time before another guild would start doing this). And I got the blame for the aftermath).
 
Riesen
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Posts: 2176
2014-02-12 #8082
I cannot edit the post. The real sentence would be:
I will not tell when or how they will do this. But something will happend.

^Regarding the Guildwar update.
 
Sariel
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2014-02-12 #8085
i swear this thread is useless

admin and cm know that riesen is good tutor

death rush like dustintje and abeze because thry are not with old thats all

and rush you want to be helper right but ur not chosen because everyone know u will abuse it

 
Death Rush
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2014-02-12 #8087
Srsly I like Dust/Abez Because I can see the neutral on them they Dust Told me he stopped war because of problems he had Kasho told me he will play With Morzex because the problems of war Abez Stopped war before 5months+ i think
I see that Asian potatos/Auto Powerz ARE VERY BAD HELPERS USE THE RANK AGAINST PLAYERS
i reported before about Asian /Auto powerz
Asian Was Jailed me in the half of war and i add my pictures
Auto powerz jailed me when i was in top arena event ^^^

I can swear that server is full bad with these 2 helpers I WONT LOSE MY MIND BECause of them or this game i hope that helpers read my msg and take a real action



Yours Death Rush,
 
Death Rush
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2014-02-12 #8088
About You Riesen I think your Neutral but when you saw old powerz unjail then you didnt take any actionDONT SAY YOU DIDNT SAW HIM HE WERE IN EVENT AND STAY NEXT TO NEXUS IF YOU SAID THAT YOU DIDNT SAW OLD AFter unjail SO stop talk with me again in game or anything else because i get enough of lie at the end it's a server so why you have to lie
I can see that you neutral but not 100% like Abez......



Yours death rush,
 
Riesen
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Posts: 2176
2014-02-12 #8089
@Sariel

Thank you for the comment =) And yes, some players might think this thread is unnecessary.
But main reason was to avoid all the off-topics from Abezethibous thread.
Also if I were Admin, I would like the know the players point of view of the helpers.

The helpers should be a role-model of the OT and if some players (e.g me) dont live up to this requirement, I think I failed as a Tutor. I'm not sure how to explain it but hopefully you get my point.

@Death Rush

And how many wars have I stopped or even denied to join to help a player? =/
I know I dont see my name in your post. But atm I feel like one of the abusers.
I don't accuse the others too by saying this. (Asian and Auto). But hopefully you understand my point.

I guess we can use this thread to say the positives and negatives about a helper. And hopefully they will accept this feedback and make a change.
I know that some has grudges against me but hopefully that wont be in the way when you/them give the feedback. Have in mind that I've jailed several of my friends.
I guess I can say that I even jailed Notsureifzrz Jr once. Maybe this will show you that I'm neutral?
Anyway, I rather not announce the players I've report or jailed, but let's just say that I've always been neutral when I jailed someone.

Only mistake I've done (jailing) was the second day I was a helper. I jailed someone during a war (it was 5vs him) and I jailed him as a joke. And I understood after that jailing ain't a toy, more like a tool.

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Try to be a little serious here, thanks
 
Riesen
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Posts: 2176
2014-02-12 #8090
Quote:
Originally Posted by Death Rush

About You Riesen I think your Neutral but when you saw old powerz unjail then you didnt take any actionDONT SAY YOU DIDNT SAW HIM HE WERE IN EVENT AND STAY NEXT TO NEXUS IF YOU SAID THAT YOU DIDNT SAW OLD AFter unjail SO stop talk with me again in game or anything else because i get enough of lie at the end it's a server so why you have to lie
I can see that you neutral but not 100% like Abez......



Yours death rush,




Regarding that issue, I was at the North easth bridge. Most of the time with Powerzor. (might been Ihanyy too, I'm not sure atm).
The players that passed that bridge can prove my story too. E.g - Death Rush -.

But yes, I saw him at the near end. And at that point the Nexsus had almost black hp.
I later saw some other player I jailed (name doesn't matter) and I got confused.

At that point I didnt matter to do anything since the war would end at any second (minute) So I decided to unjail the players in your guild too. And take screenshots instead.
Might not be the best action I've done but I thought it was better to just report this to Admin instead of fixing this situation when the event would be done any second.

Also, jailing Old Powerz during that time wouldn't change the situation for you guys.
Better to just report the whole situation instead.
I can send you the reply I got by email regarding the guild war if you want.
 
Death Rush
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2014-02-12 #8091
Agree Riesen With The total but WHO WILL CHANGE !! as r ip The Robber Will Die Robber
So the Abuser Will Die Abuser but srsly i wont keep talking because i talk on the air nothing will agree with me nothing will happen to the abusers i just have to stay and get more jail from them more and more and more and more and more and more but i will say Admin /community manager yours the best none bettter than yours and the action will be from yours I am talking now with a big headache sorry because i have finished my 5 lessons in 1 day + play tibia
anyway have fun for everyone and i hope the change for them Or keep jail me i will just report and report idc if they didnt punished or anything but i will keep report and lose alot of things

Like Top arera i were with gold infinity then Gold infinity win it by the mistake of auto powerz and jailing me Keep Jail Me KEEP JAIL ME I WILL just report and report ^^^^


Yours Death Rush,
 
Riesen
Seniour Tutor
Posts: 2176
2014-02-12 #8092
@Death Rush
Of course something will happend. But I think it's better to report someone anonymous instead.
By anonymous, I mean by email (Zendesk). Also, as a Tutor, I rather not get involved in other helpers jailing.
Of course you shouldn't be jailed without a reason and I really hate abusers like that. I had that trouble back in 8.6. But that's another story.

Personally I think Admin / Cm should be the one to deal out the actions. They do that atm with the banishments. But the jailing is really a trouble.
I cannot accuse anyone for jailing abusements since I dont know who does it. But should they removed that function for all?.

I sent them and email regarding this jailing issue. My tip was to open a channel like trade chat. And whenever someone says /jail it will show that comment in that channel.
E.g 10:00 Riesen [1652] /jail Riesen
Maybe 1min cooldown to write in that channel or only let the helpers write in it.
With this, you can see who the abuser is e.g during arena event. And also question it.
 
Abezethibou
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2014-02-13 #8112
well this is my point of view even if you dont like riesen you cannot say hes a bad tutor riesen is a very trustworthy guy and i would trust him with anything he also has alot of knowledge about the server and is a great tutor.

secondly i think that the jailing system should only be availible to tutors/senior tutors hopfully i get promoted soon XD.

thirdly i think that tutor should get there own special character TUTOR Abezethibou for example which is rebirth 1 an cannot be attacked but nor can it attack players that way tutors can still have a normal character and since there is only me and riesen tutors it would show who is jailing and who is abusing there power which niether of us are

abeze

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